“A podcast that explores the imperfect art of being human…”
Every person’s life is worthy of a novel and in these conversations we explore some of the chapters. The highs and lows, the struggles and the gold we find on the other side. Humaning is about seeing your parts in the story of others.
To inspire, to encourage, to laugh and to see that we are actually more alike than different.
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Ep 40: A look back at the hard, the human and the unexpected of 2025 with Jo Dobson and Rick Watson
Jo and I sat down on the couch at the end of a massive year - no script, no structure, just two humans reflecting on what 2025 actually felt like.
What unfolded was honest, imperfect and surprisingly satisfying.
Together we explore:
The truth of hitting an end-of-year energy wall
Why we skipped recording earlier this week and chose connection over content
The “real” version of burnout- the kind that comes from misalignment, not overwork
What our podcasts, groups and therapy training taught us about storytelling and connection
The quiet gifts this year gave us: imperfection, belonging and resonance
The moments, people and conversations that touched us in unexpected ways
What we’re dreaming into for next year and what we’re learning to let be
Ep 39: Finding what matters most: a plot-twist story of family, identity and resilience with Bec Cortering
In this episode of Humaning, I sit down with Bec Corterling - a business owner, mum and long-time friend of Jo’s - for a conversation that goes far deeper than clothes, content or running a boutique.
We talk about the quiet exhaustion that builds from showing up every day for 12 years, the pressure of being “the strong one” and the loneliness that can sit underneath a life that looks full on the outside.
Bec shares the childhood roots of her work ethic, how she’s learning to slow down and what contentment honestly looks like for her now.
And then… her story takes a turn.
Ep 38: Coming out, speaking up and rocking uncertainty with Bronte Walker
In this episode, I sit down with Bronte Walker, a fellow Gestalt therapy student, musician, facilitator and all-round legend to explore what it really takes to find your voice and speak up for who you are - even when it feels risky.
Bronte shares his story of coming out, transitioning and learning to trust himself while navigating work, identity and belonging in both New York and Australia.
Ep 37: The tug-of-war between contentment and drive with Rick Watson
In this solo episode, Rick introduces a new format — a space to be curious about a single theme and reflect on how it shows up in your own life.
This week, he explores the tension between being content with what is and still wanting to grow. How do we stay grounded in enoughness while staying open to possibility?
And what role does this play is keeping burnout at bay?
Ep 36: When life throws a curveball: reporting from the messy middle with John Williams
My mate John Williams is in week five of cancer treatment and he sat down with me to share what it’s really like to live through something hard.
We talk about control, surrender, the gap between expectation and reality and how he is finding his way through such a massive experience that was not on his bingo card for this year.
Ep 35: Proving, pleasing and finally being myself with Pete Tansley
Pete Tansley opens up about the years he spent chasing approval — hustling in business, wearing the nice-guy mask, and pushing himself to make others proud. We talk about the cost of that drive, the rock bottoms that forced him to stop, and how therapy, fatherhood, and reconnection helped him shift from proving and pleasing to actually being himself.
It’s an honest, hopeful conversation about masks, mistakes, and what real freedom looks like on the other side.
Ep 34: From criticism to kindness : lessons in self-compassion with Melanie Briony
In this episode, Mel Briony is back on the couch with me for round two. We talk about the messy dance between self-doubt and self-kindness, why mistakes aren’t really “wrong,” and how breathwork and nervous system awareness can shift the way we show up in everyday life.
It’s equal parts raw, practical, and hilarious (yes, donuts do make a cameo). If you’ve ever felt stuck in perfectionism, tired of people-pleasing, or just sick of kicking yourself in the shins — this one’s for you.
Ep 33: From booze to breath work with Barney Mercer.
In this conversation, Barney shares his journey from chronic pain, heavy drinking, and living in a freeze state to discovering breathwork, forgiveness, and a new way of showing up as a dad, husband, and human. We talk about the cost of pushing through, the shock of repeating old patterns, and the surprising power of celebrating — not pitying — your younger self.
It’s raw, funny, and refreshingly down-to-earth. If you’ve ever been curious about breathwork but wary of the woo, Barney’s no-bullshit approach might just change the way you see it.
Ep 32: A masterclass in misalignment with Rick Watson and Jo Dobson
Our life has been a bit of a shit-show over the past 4-6 weeks, but it feels like we're coming out the other side. In this episode we share our stories of pushing too hard and then realising that (in different ways) we are actually way out of alignment.
Fear, scarcity and expectation all played weird roles in this one but in this very human episode, we share what it looks like to come back to what really matters.
If you have had a few "how did I get here?" moments lately, then this conversation is for you.
Ep 31: The cost (and gift) of being different with Kellie Glab
“What if being different wasn’t something to fix… but something to honour?”
In this conversation, Kellie Glab speaks openly about choosing a life outside the norm — a life without children, without conformity and without the kind of understanding she often sees others receive. We explore the quiet grief that can come with that, and the deep self-compassion it takes to sit with difference instead of turning away from it.
Ep 30: Laughing at the shit that makes us human with Clancy Simkins
“It sucks that we get wise just in time to be too tired to do anything with it.”
Clancy Simkins joins me for a raw, hilarious and unexpectedly moving conversation about all the messy parts of life — burnout, cancer, parenting, control and the endless dance between falling apart and holding it together.
We talk about permission to stop, black humour as a survival skill and the lifelong challenge of accepting ourselves (especially when our default is to fix, rescue or over-function).
Ep 29: Men, emotion and the art of showing up with Linzey Beister
"Fear is often a mile wide and an inch deep”"
In this episode, I sit down with therapist and men’s group facilitator Linzey Beister for a real conversation about the messy (and often beautiful) work of showing up emotionally.
We talk ghosting, people-pleasing, emotional avoidance and the old patterns that keep us from connection. Linzey shares his journey from men's work into Hakomi therapy and we explore what it means to do deep work in a slow, supportive, and nonviolent way.
Ep 28: Twelve weeks at a time: cancer, champagne and showing up anyway with Toni Mackay
"I carry the weight of it… and it’s heavy."
In this deeply personal and quietly powerful conversation, Toni Mackay shares what it’s like to live life in 12-week cycles — the rhythm of CT scans and waiting for results that come with stage four bowel cancer. But this is more than a story about illness. It’s about self-worth, independence, boundaries, love, and what it really means to carry the weight of it and still choose joy.
Ep 27: From control to connection - grief, growth and letting go with Scott Ellis
What if the way you’ve been holding it all together is the very thing keeping you stuck?
In this episode, I sit down with Scott Ellis to talk about what happens when we stop running on autopilot and start facing the things we’ve been avoiding — grief, uncertainty and the deeper questions of who we really are.
Ep 26: Vulnerability, drive and being seen with Darci Charlie Dee
“"I fall apart in private. I resolve in private. But I’m learning that there’s real power in being seen while I’m still in it—not just after I’ve figured it out."
In this raw and resonant episode, Rick sits down with Darci Charlie Dee—yoga teacher, retreat facilitator, and fellow Gestalt therapy student—for a real-deal conversation about the courage it takes to be seen
Ep 25: The truth about feeling stuck with Rick Watson
“Sometimes the hardest part of getting unstuck is admitting you're stuck in the first place.”
In this solo episode, I explore the very real, very human experience of feeling stuck. Whether it’s in work, relationships, creativity, or just within yourself, this one’s for the moments where nothing’s terribly wrong… but nothing’s really moving either.
Ep 24: Living an adventurous life with Paul Holland
“Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.”
In this warm, real-deal episode of Humaning, I sit down with Paul Holland—a long-time friend and fellow explorer of the human experience. We delve into the gifts (and growing pains) of uncertainty, navigating midlife transitions, redefining fatherhood, and pursuing freedom on our own terms.
Ep 23: Finding freedom in uncertainty with Katia Erokhina
“Uncertainty holds so much more freedom than the illusion of control.”
In this heartfelt episode, I sit down with therapist and all-round legend Katia Erokhina to explore how we can find freedom, choice and meaning in life’s messier moments.
Ep 22: Tell Me More: FRACing - Fixing, rescuing and other loving disasters.
“It’s not always about fixing. Sometimes it’s about being with what is.”
In this special episode, I sit down with my partner Jo to explore FRACing — our own go-to framework for deeper, more meaningful conversations.
Ep 21: From control to acceptance with Chris Slater
Chris Slater normally prefers to stay out of the limelight, but behind his private persona is a compelling story .
In this episode, Chris and I talk about the internal chaos that was bubbling away as he tried to build his chiro practise. The combination of control, anger and co-dependency was created some real-life "challenges" and he then realised he was turning to alcohol to numb the knock-on feelings.
But Chris's story is one of serious self-responsibility.